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Rob Williams - A 2000 AD Review Interview
18th September 05

This is the first in a series of interviews that will be the beginning of the much promised 2000AD Review Small Press section. Yes, we know it's a very tenuous link with 2000AD - but the small press scene can both influence and be influenced by 2000AD and its creators - with many small press creators taking 2000AD as the next step.

There's a wealth af talent out there that deserves far more exposure, so Ed Berridge is on hand over the next couple of weeks to introduce us to some of the names you should be watching....

2000 AD Review -  Small Press  - Bryan Coyle

Pony School

Bryan Coyle Jr. had been mucking about drawing giant robots for no good reason over a lengthy period before first seeing his work published in his own creation, Pony School. Since then, he has worked on a number of Small Press titles, including the regular Binmen of the Apocalypse strip in The End is Nigh, Lost Property, FutureQuake, MangaQuake, Loups-Garou and Dr. Who spin-off The Forge – Project Longinus.

How did you first become aware of the 'Small Press' or 'Indie' scene?

When I realised that the comic I'd just run off in my bedroom was technically a part of the 'small press' scene. I was vaguely aware that there were small press comics out there, and even knew the names of some from the occasional reference given on the 2000AD forum, like FutureQuake and Solar Wind. But they always had the smack of professionalism and effort to them that I couldn't see myself replicating in any capacity that would result in something that someone would willingly pay money for.

I knew people put the books together, but I never realised there was quite so little to it. That's not to demean the effort that's put into the small press scene by genuine enthusiasts, it's just that there really is this idea that comics are shiny, professionally-produced things of beauty, written and drawn to within an inch of abstraction, when if you step back a minute and look at the highest quality books on the market, a great majority are really, really badly written or drawn - production-line shite with no enthusiasm or heart. You'd think writing Batman or Superman would be the gold standard for a writer; that if you got that far in the industry, you'd write your heart out, put everything into it. Instead - well, words fail me in describing some of the shite that's out there. That's where the small press scene comes in. An idea, a willing artist, and you've got a comic.

It was a bit of a minor revelation that it could really be as easy as running the end result off on a normal A4 printer and selling it. People are being seriously conned by not knowing it's that simple.

How did you land upon the idea of Pony School Assassin (as it was then)?

It was a running joke. There was a discussion about girl's comics on the 2000AD forum, then eventually, the usual joke "my girlie comic's got this, that, an' the other - it's gonna be great!" Ed seemed to be encouraging the idea of teen lesbianism, and I'm just too easy a mark to let it go. Eventually someone asked when this was going to see the light of day, at which point, I thought the next logical step in keeping the joke going was to do a spoof cover or page. A few character sketches later, followed by an email to Ed asking if he'd put some words in there, and it started getting away from me.

I didn't have any intention of printing out an actual comic book until I started thinking about how I'd actually go about doing it. It seemed frighteningly easy to do - just print the pages onto an A4 sheet of paper and fold it over - you'd have an a5 comic book. My first instinct when I realised it was going to be a proper comic was to put it up on the web for a laugh, but printing seemed a great idea the more I thought about it.

2000 AD Review -  Small Press  - Bryan Coyle

Pony School

There seems to be both western and eastern overtones within the book: would you say that both Manga and European spy/adventure fiction were influences?

I'd say they perhaps more readily accept the bizarre as the background to a story in the east, but back in the 1980's, British comics chewed up and spat out great ideas, situations and characters like there was no tomorrow. And I don't just mean 2000AD – Eagle had some truly barmy stuff, like shape-shifting aliens coming to Earth to take part in extreme BMX competitions, or kids being forced to be cops while their parents were off fighting a war on the moon with all the other adults. Just having an idea and running with it until the editor told them to stop, that's what the writers did and that's what comics should be about, not maintaining some franchise in indefinite stasis like the Americans seem to do.

Even the likes of Roy of the Rovers had that mad strip about the inventor who creates a robot to play football in the premiership. These stories could be as daft and as dark as you imagine, usually at the same time, and I'd like to think that that's what inspires me more than anything else.

Do you ever find that producing your own comics can be something of a thankless task?

Only in that you'll never make any money doing it, but that was a given right from the start. I expected to pour money down the drain producing Pony School, but it hasn't actually cost that much. There's maybe a moment when you think "Ah, I can't be bothered doing this right now", but you'll get that when you do anything. By far, getting something solid in my hands that I can say is mine, and looks a bit like a comic does, is worth the hassle. Creative endeavors are always worth the hassle, even if the end result doesn't measure up, at least you have something to show for it.

Do you notice a difference between working on your own comics and drawing stories for other people? Do you prefer one over the other?

I like the idea of working from someone else’s script. Doing your own, there's always going to be the impulse to keep changing it and changing it until you get it right, only you never will - with other people's scripts, your working day is set in stone. You draw what they tell you - it's their script, not yours. It doesn't matter if it's got twenty-five panels per page and topless nuns wanking off our lord Jesus for a finale (although that one was quite fun to draw) - you draw it and you shut up.

What do you enjoy most about producing your own comics?

The women. I'm a fanny magnet these days - chicks can't resist a creative type, especially a penniless one.

Would you ever like to both write and draw your own comic book?

Yes. It's about a girl with large breasts and her giant robot bunny who fights giant ape robots from the future. There might be lesbianism in there, I don't know yet.

2000 AD Review -  Small Press  - Bryan Coyle

Cannibal Salad

How did you go about selling your comic, and how do you get people to notice it?

Selling? I have no idea. Ed's been the one pressing flesh at all the conventions. My penniless ass has yet to make the proper effort to get out there and mop up the abuse for producing such an atrocity, so he's the one taking the flak so far. We've had a few ads in Comics International, that have so far managed to shift about four copies, and an issue actually works out cheaper than real toilet paper, so that's been a great selling point at some of the conventions, I gather.

Do you see the Small Press as a stepping stone to a full-time career, or is this just a passionate hobby?

Honestly, I have no idea. I can't see anything coming of it, but being a filthy unemployed scrounger, having stuff to do during the day helps fill my time. I am passionate about it, though. It's great that there are people who look at the drivel on the shelves and think (rightly) that they can do better. And I'd rather spend my (admittedly limited) cash on their efforts than the latest issue of Superman.

How do you see the comics scene in general today, both nationally and internationally?

In the west, it's in the crapper. In the rest of the world, it's quite healthy. Smart people have already figured out why - in the west, it's a commodity, and approached as one, while elsewhere, comics are still seen as valid storytelling. I suppose it's because of all the censorship that crippled the medium in the 1950-1960s - Seduction of the Innocent and all that - that it had to resort to neutering itself to survive, and then just got in the habit of staying in the hole the industry had dug.

TV at least had the reality TV boom to shock a great many American producers into upping their game, and it would be nice to think that the same thing could happen with comics - that there would be a backlash against the homogenised mainstream rubbish and small press books would be on sale in supermarkets, but it's unlikely at this point.

2000 AD Review -  Small Press  - Bryan Coyle

Binmen of the Apocalypse

How do you see the Small Press scene today?

I only started about seven months ago, so I'm not sure. There's definitely a lot more support for it than I first assumed, though. Stuff gets reviewed in Comics International, and even in SFX now Buffy's finished and the writers are stuck for things to write about. But British comics are virtually nonexistent at the moment, so I'd be surprised if the small press scene didn't keep growing. There are far too many talented people out there – 2000AD, Judge Dredd the Megazine, and Spectacular Spider-Man (pretty much the entirety of the British comics market today) just aren't enough to contain them.

What's next for you, both in terms of work and what you would like to do (and don't you think it's time to quit drawing horsies and sell out properly)?

Small press stuff, mainly. And I thought I already did sell out - Pony School is the next Harry Potter. The setup is pure Hollywood. Actually, someone pointed out that there already was another English teenage spy with the name Rider in a series of famous novels, and I got a bit worried - until I read the plot synopsis for one of the books, in which the main character is a double for a foreign prince. I stopped worrying about similarities after that. The day a script for Pony School arrives in which Penny Ryder turns out to be a double for a foreign princess is the day I track Ed down and shoot him in the face.

Pony School is available for £2 + 50p p&p from PonySchool@gmail.com
The Action Stations Winter Special is available to buy from 1st October.
For more information on The Forge – Project Longinus, go to www.graveyardshift.co.uk
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